[xquery-talk] not sure if I should laugh with big tears or cry with big tears...:-)))))

[daniela florescu]

What I think will happen is the following:

1. ISO will look at them like they are crazy when they send a language specification in Powerpoint

2. They’ll scratch  their heads and probable write SOMETHING that ( kind of ) makes sense

3. That SOMETHING written up will extend (some bastardized subset of) SQL

4. In the process, they forget that SQL in 2015 looks like THIS :-))))))))
http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-99.bnf.html
(good luck, guys!!!!   You complain that extending XQuery is hard. Well, try THIS then :-)  Ha, Ha, Ha …..))

5. That SOMETHING will look just like SQL-XML,. which disappeared in the hole it came from... as soon as it was on print….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL/XML

6. They will pay a lot of “bloggers” to convince gullible people that SQL is the perfect “query” language 
for semi-structured data. YES. But only if you have negative IQ and have no idea about semi-structured data.
(unfortunately there are lots of those)

Some of those guys already argue with me (very annoyingly to be honest, and without ANY knowledge of databases) on Linkedin
(if those companies choose people to argue with me… at least choose someone who can hold a scientific argument with me…. at least 
make it a little fun for me….please …..)

As an example, please check this:
https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/54257-6010072547398336516

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And I just told you my best guess. It’s nothing then a simple “hunch”, without any proof to it.

The three companies that “make" this N1QL a success are: CouchDB, MarkLogic and Oracle. 

I worked long enough at Oracle to recognize the “touch” of stupid politics, in top of a basis of bad technology.
And MarkLogic, given their executive people are only coming from Oracle, is likely to behave the same.

And I right, guys ???  Oracle ? MarkLogic ?   Any comments ?

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Did I tell you, guys  ???  I LOVE guess games …. :-)))))))

I enjoy them !!!!!

Bring some more !!!!

Have a great evening everybody,
Dana








> On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Ihe Onwuka <ihe.onwuka at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All that effort into designing a language that has no published specification, will almost certainly never be a published standard and therefore no financial institution will be prepared to pay a N1QL for.
> 
> Stupid is as Stupid Does.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:15 PM, daniela florescu <dflorescu at me.com <mailto:dflorescu at me.com>> wrote:
> I guess I should cry with big tears…and not laugh at all.
> 
> Even smart people like Kurt Cagle would like to see this “inexact science language”  (because there are two kinds of
>  sciences, one exact, and one inexact…..)   standardized as ISO ….
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/n1ql-couchbase-brings-sql-json-kurt-cagle <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/n1ql-couchbase-brings-sql-json-kurt-cagle>
> 
> The world is weird.
> 
> Dana
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:38 PM, daniela florescu <dflorescu at me.com <mailto:dflorescu at me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I copy and paste here from Linkedin my conversation with one of the top 
>> scientists of on of the top NoSQL databases: Couchbase….
>> 
>> "Please consider real world deployments, not academic endeavors....This is still an inexact science” :-))))))))
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> 
>> Dana,
>> 
>> Please consider real world deployments, not academic endeavors....This is still an inexact science.
>> 
>> On 6/2/15, 10:38 AM, Daniela Florescu wrote: 
>> --------------------
>> Dear,
>> 
>> you have a query language implemented, and you have no specification written for it !???
>> 
>> That's weird to say the least.
>> 
>> I never heard of a programming language (because a query language is a programming language...), whose specification is only in Powerpoint.
>> 
>> Sorry, I don't have time.
>> 
>> If you have a specification written, please send it to me, and I'll give you an honest feedback.
>> 
>> Best
>> Dana
>> 
>> On 6/2/15, 10:33 AM, XXXXl wrote: 
>> --------------------
>> Daniela,
>> 
>> Couchbase Connect 15 going on this week at Levis Stadium in Santa Clara. You should check it out. We are talking up our query language N!QL.
>> 
>> http://www.cvent.com/events/couchbase-connect-15/event-summary-b7744ca960364b75aba41de42cbef19e.aspx <https://www.linkedin.com/redir/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecvent%2Ecom%2Fevents%2Fcouchbase-connect-15%2Fevent-summary-b7744ca960364b75aba41de42cbef19e%2Easpx&urlhash=3ZMl>
>> 
>> 
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