[xquery-talk] SQL vs. XQuery (aka FOR vs FROM and RETURn vs. SELECT)

daniela florescu dflorescu at me.com
Tue Jun 23 14:31:19 PDT 2015


One thing that did strike me is the link cited in one of the comments about this article:

http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1961297 <http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1961297>

Just look at the examples.

Does everyone see what I see !? :-)

Those are just FLWOR expressions, with FOR spelled as FROM and RETURN spelled
as SELECT.

Can we PLEASE add those as synonyms in the XQuery grammar before you close XQuery 3.1  !?

Otherwise we’ll hear for another 100 years that XQuery has nothing to do with SQL while THIS language
describe in this paper DOES. (sic!)

It’s dumb, but that’s how it is.

Pretty please !???

Thanks
Dana



> On Jun 23, 2015, at 11:04 AM, daniela florescu <dflorescu at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Ihe,
> 
> you asked why XQuery is not more popular.
> 
> Here is another striking answer to your question: NOBODY KNOWS IT EXISTS.
> 
> Just look at this example.
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sql-vs-discrepancy-somil-asthana?trk=hp-feed-article-title-like <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sql-vs-discrepancy-somil-asthana?trk=hp-feed-article-title-like>
> 
> I quote: "Indisputably, there may be people who are working on Non Relational
>  Algebra and Non Tuple Relational Calculus, its just that we do not know them.”
> 
> [[[Can someone just answer this guy, so I don’t have to insult him/her !?
> Because I feel a really strong urge….I’ll try to breathe and do some meditation….]]]
> 
> In fact, I know that this is not his/her limitation.
> 
> It’s our OWN failure to explain to the world what XQuery is, what it does, and what is good at.
> 
> Best regards
> Dana
> 
> 
> P.S. And after that, please DON’T ask me why I am SO pissed off at MarkLogic who pretend they never ate the garlic, not does
> their mouth smell of garlic…..
> 
> They MADE all their money out of the power of XQuery  (expressiveness, productivity, etc), yet they pretend they’ve never heard of it….
> 
> That’s something that REALLY gets me angry.
> 
> And this will come back to bait them on the business side very badly too. 
> 
> Oracle would have NEVER done the same thing about SQL…..just saying.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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